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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://www.flipandgrowrichreviews.com/armando-montelongo-real-estate/flip-and-grow-rich-scam/comment-page-1#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently attended a seminar and was &quot;sold&quot; by the end of the presentation,except for a few red flags: 
 
1.  If Jesse C. (His Director of something and apparently a flunkee of the 1st episode of the Apprentice), and all of these coaches are so convinced of this amazing success, what are they doing traveling around the country giving seminars?  Even if Armando does make the $6,000 (but then slash to &quot;$1,500&quot; ;)...why aren&#039;t they on their computers and phones making all this money themselves?  That right there says it all!!  

2.  The infomercial to get you there clearly makes it appear that Armando himself will be conducting the seminar.  And during the seminar, they never say he &quot;won&#039;t be speaking today&quot;.  Then during the seminar, it&#039;s just automatically assumed by the audience that He will be conducting the clinics.  I bet he has nothing to do with this whole thing except having his picture plastered everywhere.!!

3.  If Armando is making so much money with all of his secrets, why would he want to &quot;tell the world?&quot;  Give me a break, take all the leads and sales yourself!  Hire the people that run the credit card machines at the seminars to do the foot work!  C&#039;mon Armando, do you really think we are all that stupid?

4.  People that respect Armando for his &quot;work ethic&quot; on the show need to remind themselves, this is not a &quot;sweetheart straightforward businessman out to &quot;save the world&quot;.  On the &quot;FLIPside&quot;, he is a shrewd, cold, demanding and at times &quot;cutthroat&quot; kingpin&quot;, ordering people around like slaves to make everything happen.  HE pockets the money!!  C&#039;mon people, let&#039;s be real here.

Although I will admit,I was close to falling for it, (I even went so far as to ask one of the &quot;rude&quot; credit card runners at the seminar, ( by the way they sit in the back of the room and basically &quot;pounce on you&quot; for your credit card, if Armando and his wife were &quot;Christians&quot;.  She said she had no idea.  I&#039;d love to know the real character of these people, because any person that scams any other AT ALL is a TOTAL SCAMMER, and is preying on people that have honest and sincere intentions.   I challenge you Armando, prove me wrong.  And the rest of us.  The truth always comes out in the wash anyway.

BEWARE, my friends. Go to the Better Business Bureau at least.  He has scored a solid &quot;F&quot;, and refuses to become a member.  Stay tuned....we all know there will be &quot;more to come&quot; with Armando Worldwide.  Can you say modern day &quot;Charlaton&quot;?....Definition:  (n) :A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble clams to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended a seminar and was &#8220;sold&#8221; by the end of the presentation,except for a few red flags: </p>
<p>1.  If Jesse C. (His Director of something and apparently a flunkee of the 1st episode of the Apprentice), and all of these coaches are so convinced of this amazing success, what are they doing traveling around the country giving seminars?  Even if Armando does make the $6,000 (but then slash to &#8220;$1,500&#8243; <img src='http://www.flipandgrowrichreviews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;why aren&#8217;t they on their computers and phones making all this money themselves?  That right there says it all!!  </p>
<p>2.  The infomercial to get you there clearly makes it appear that Armando himself will be conducting the seminar.  And during the seminar, they never say he &#8220;won&#8217;t be speaking today&#8221;.  Then during the seminar, it&#8217;s just automatically assumed by the audience that He will be conducting the clinics.  I bet he has nothing to do with this whole thing except having his picture plastered everywhere.!!</p>
<p>3.  If Armando is making so much money with all of his secrets, why would he want to &#8220;tell the world?&#8221;  Give me a break, take all the leads and sales yourself!  Hire the people that run the credit card machines at the seminars to do the foot work!  C&#8217;mon Armando, do you really think we are all that stupid?</p>
<p>4.  People that respect Armando for his &#8220;work ethic&#8221; on the show need to remind themselves, this is not a &#8220;sweetheart straightforward businessman out to &#8220;save the world&#8221;.  On the &#8220;FLIPside&#8221;, he is a shrewd, cold, demanding and at times &#8220;cutthroat&#8221; kingpin&#8221;, ordering people around like slaves to make everything happen.  HE pockets the money!!  C&#8217;mon people, let&#8217;s be real here.</p>
<p>Although I will admit,I was close to falling for it, (I even went so far as to ask one of the &#8220;rude&#8221; credit card runners at the seminar, ( by the way they sit in the back of the room and basically &#8220;pounce on you&#8221; for your credit card, if Armando and his wife were &#8220;Christians&#8221;.  She said she had no idea.  I&#8217;d love to know the real character of these people, because any person that scams any other AT ALL is a TOTAL SCAMMER, and is preying on people that have honest and sincere intentions.   I challenge you Armando, prove me wrong.  And the rest of us.  The truth always comes out in the wash anyway.</p>
<p>BEWARE, my friends. Go to the Better Business Bureau at least.  He has scored a solid &#8220;F&#8221;, and refuses to become a member.  Stay tuned&#8230;.we all know there will be &#8220;more to come&#8221; with Armando Worldwide.  Can you say modern day &#8220;Charlaton&#8221;?&#8230;.Definition:  (n) :A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble clams to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative, thanks for sharing the post. I was skeptical what information I would get from these seminars and its seems like he&#039;s just trying to get you into the &quot;angel&quot; or hard money investors which are probably just a group of his friends and they give him kick backs on every deal they get from his &quot;students&quot;. You shouldn&#039;t have to pay $25,000 to attend a tour with no guarantee you&#039;ll get any deal done. Anyways, thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative, thanks for sharing the post. I was skeptical what information I would get from these seminars and its seems like he&#8217;s just trying to get you into the &#8220;angel&#8221; or hard money investors which are probably just a group of his friends and they give him kick backs on every deal they get from his &#8220;students&#8221;. You shouldn&#8217;t have to pay $25,000 to attend a tour with no guarantee you&#8217;ll get any deal done. Anyways, thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid the $1,500 for the 3 day seminar under the belief that we would Armando and Veronica would actually be there to speak, but quickly realized that there was still no appearance, from either of them. I was dissapointed at this, because the speakers sent there were very informative. I also have received many emails from the &quot;wealth response team&quot; that is suppose to be available for me to call and ask questions about what we were taught if we needed help and guidance, but none of the phone numbers have ever worked, and when i approached the speakers at the seminar they gave me three other numbers that have been useless!! Then by the second day of the seminar they try to sell you another 3 day, $25,000 bus tour, where you will have to pay out of pocket for travel and hotel expenses. They claim that if you pay for the bus tour you will be guaranteed to meet their &quot;hard money lenders&quot; once you arrive, close deals within in 90 days, and you will be able to make all your money back, because they will take you by the hand and &quot;spoonfeed&quot; everything to you. Sounded to good to be true, so i did some research, and kept in touch with some of the people who did the Bus tour only to find out that it was still &quot;to good to be true&quot;. Up until this seminar I had alot of trust and confidence in Armando and what he had to offer, but after his seminars, I left feeling like I had spent what money I did have hoping to pick up some new information, but realized that each 3 day seminar he holds just tries to sell you something else. This bothers me considering I had alot of respect for his family, and hard work. I chose not to pay out the $25,000 for the bus tour because this quickly appeared to be a scam. I had made it through the first free seminar, and then had to borrow money to get to the $1,500 dollar seminar, and ever since all I have received is broken promises and keep getting run around in circles, trying to find a phone number for any support or ask any questions in general that were promised to us! I&#039;m not going to go all out and say this is a scam, but i will say tread lightly! You definately wont get everything they promise you, and be prepared to keep spending your money, or borrowing money from other people just to realize you got yourself deeper in Debt! As far as the speakers on the 3 day $1,500 seminar they were very informative, and I did research on them to find out they have been successful at Real Estate, so I gained a little more knowledge than what I had before, but I don&#039;t even think the speakers realize what is going on with Armando&#039;s whole agenda, because when a group of people kept asking questions about stuff we were led to believe, the speakers were shocked to here we were promised certain things and didn&#039;t receive them. They even acted more shocked when they kept handing me phone numbers to contact somebody, and none of the numbers worked. At one point I got one phone number that worked and spoke briefly with someone, but by the next week this number was disconnected and i couldn&#039;t get a hold of anyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid the $1,500 for the 3 day seminar under the belief that we would Armando and Veronica would actually be there to speak, but quickly realized that there was still no appearance, from either of them. I was dissapointed at this, because the speakers sent there were very informative. I also have received many emails from the &#8220;wealth response team&#8221; that is suppose to be available for me to call and ask questions about what we were taught if we needed help and guidance, but none of the phone numbers have ever worked, and when i approached the speakers at the seminar they gave me three other numbers that have been useless!! Then by the second day of the seminar they try to sell you another 3 day, $25,000 bus tour, where you will have to pay out of pocket for travel and hotel expenses. They claim that if you pay for the bus tour you will be guaranteed to meet their &#8220;hard money lenders&#8221; once you arrive, close deals within in 90 days, and you will be able to make all your money back, because they will take you by the hand and &#8220;spoonfeed&#8221; everything to you. Sounded to good to be true, so i did some research, and kept in touch with some of the people who did the Bus tour only to find out that it was still &#8220;to good to be true&#8221;. Up until this seminar I had alot of trust and confidence in Armando and what he had to offer, but after his seminars, I left feeling like I had spent what money I did have hoping to pick up some new information, but realized that each 3 day seminar he holds just tries to sell you something else. This bothers me considering I had alot of respect for his family, and hard work. I chose not to pay out the $25,000 for the bus tour because this quickly appeared to be a scam. I had made it through the first free seminar, and then had to borrow money to get to the $1,500 dollar seminar, and ever since all I have received is broken promises and keep getting run around in circles, trying to find a phone number for any support or ask any questions in general that were promised to us! I&#8217;m not going to go all out and say this is a scam, but i will say tread lightly! You definately wont get everything they promise you, and be prepared to keep spending your money, or borrowing money from other people just to realize you got yourself deeper in Debt! As far as the speakers on the 3 day $1,500 seminar they were very informative, and I did research on them to find out they have been successful at Real Estate, so I gained a little more knowledge than what I had before, but I don&#8217;t even think the speakers realize what is going on with Armando&#8217;s whole agenda, because when a group of people kept asking questions about stuff we were led to believe, the speakers were shocked to here we were promised certain things and didn&#8217;t receive them. They even acted more shocked when they kept handing me phone numbers to contact somebody, and none of the numbers worked. At one point I got one phone number that worked and spoke briefly with someone, but by the next week this number was disconnected and i couldn&#8217;t get a hold of anyone!</p>
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		<title>By: California Commercial Lenders</title>
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		<dc:creator>California Commercial Lenders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased the course as I am always trying to get more real estate knowledge and I thought it was very well done.  Very good information from Armando.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased the course as I am always trying to get more real estate knowledge and I thought it was very well done.  Very good information from Armando.</p>
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